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I cover politics, which means I have spent the past decade thinking about all of this basically all of the time, and what I tell myself constantly, and encourage other people to remember, is that none of this is actually about politics. It’s about basic humanity. It’s about right and wrong — and the very very clear difference between them. You don’t know what to say because no one knows what to say, and also, frankly, because it is exhausting to be on the right side of history here and still somehow be the side that feels (and lbr, probably will be) responsible for fixing the mess we didn’t make. (Like the worst group project in history!) But the fact that you are using your platform to admit that, and to make it clear that you do not support what is happening, is the right thing to do, even if it feels futile. People with platforms need to speak up because it makes it easier for people without platforms to speak up, and that’s important because the only way any of this gets better is if literally millions of us start speaking up and demanding better. It’s a domino effect and it takes years to reach critical mass. You’re helping it get there, even though I know it doesn’t feel like it.

Katie Chatelaine-Samsen's avatar

Ali, thank you so much for your thoughtful words. I live in Minneapolis, close to where the violence happened, and have a 6-year-old who has been out of school for the last two days because of ICE's continued aggression against residents of our city...this is really heavy. I appreciate you naming the heaviness and the hurt you are feeling, as well as how wrong all of it is. It's helpful to me to know that others outside of Minnesota are paying attention and are feeling all of this deeply as well - you have such a gift for naming what is and inviting others to find connection through our shared feelings and experiences. Your podcast has been a bright light for me since I started listening in the dark days of 2020 and I literally lost my mind with excitement when I saw your post about the upcoming episode with Hope Walz (and cameo by Tim Walz!!) Thanks for all you do, and keep being the good :)

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